What are the top 10 Commandments of Options Trading Strategies

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This blog is about the top 10 Commandments of Options Trading Strategies.

Options trading is a complex and often risky business. However, by following some simple rules, options traders can increase their chances of success while minimizing their losses.

Option strategies are the simultaneous, and often mixed, buying or selling of one or more options that differ in one or more of the options’ variables. Call options, simply known as calls, give the buyer a right to buy a particular stock at that option’s strike price. Conversely, put options, simply known as puts, give the buyer the right to sell a particular stock at the option’s strike price. This is often done to gain exposure to a specific type of opportunity or risk while eliminating other risks as part of a trading strategy. A very straightforward strategy might simply be the buying or selling of a single option; however, option strategies often refer to a combination of simultaneous buying and or selling of options.

Options strategies allow traders to profit from movements in the underlying assets based on market sentiment (i.e., bullish, bearish or neutral). In the case of neutral strategies, they can be further classified into those that are bullish on volatility, measured by the lowercase Greek letter sigma (σ), and those that are bearish on volatility. Traders can also profit off time decay, measured by the uppercase Greek letter theta (Θ), when the stock market has low volatility. The option positions used can be long and/or short positions in calls and puts.

Below are the 10 Commandments of Options Trading:

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  1. Do your homework. Before entering into any options trade, make sure you understand the underlying security, as well as the risks and rewards associated with the trade.
  2. Have a plan. Options trading is not a get-rich-quick scheme. Carefully craft a plan that takes into account your investment goals, risk tolerance, and time horizon.
  3. Use stop-loss orders. A stop-loss order is an order to sell an asset when it reaches a certain price point—the point at which the loss on the trade would become too great to bear. By using stop-loss orders, options traders can limit their losses on any given trade.
  4. Let winners run. Once an options trade is profitable, resist the urge to take profits too early. Instead, let the trade run its course and reap the full rewards of a successful trade.
  5. Cut losers short. On the other hand, when an options trade is going against you, don’t be afraid to exit the position and take your losses. Trying to “fight” the market will only lead to further losses.
  6. Manage your risk exposure. One of the most important aspects of successful options trading is managing risk exposure. Make sure you don’t have too much of your portfolio invested in any one security or sector. Diversification is key to mitigating risk in options trading (or any kind of investing).
  7. Use limit orders. A limit order is an order to buy or sell an asset at a specific price—the price at which you are willing to enter into the trade. By using limit orders, options traders can better control their risk exposure and avoid getting caught up in volatile markets.

8 . Be patient . Patience is a virtue in all aspects of life, but it’s especially important in options trading . Don’t enter into trades just because you’re feeling antsy—wait for opportunities that meet your investment criteria . And once you’ve entered into a trade , resist the urge to “trade emotionally” and instead let your original analysis play out . Over-trading is one of the biggest mistakes options traders can make .

9 . Stay disciplined. Like patience, discipline is also key to success in options trading . Once you’ve developed a sound investment strategy , stick to it ! Don’t let emotions influence your trades — if anything , emotion should be kept out of trading altogether . The best way to do this is by developing a clear set of rules that you always follow when making trades . If you can do this , you’ll be well on your way to success as an options trader.

10. Have realistic expectations . Finally, it’s important to have realistic expectations when trading options . Remember : there are no guaranteed winners in options trading ! Every trade involves some degree of risk, so don’t expect to win every single time. If you approach each trade with reasonable expectations and focus on long-term success, however, you’ll be well on your way to becoming a successful options trader


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What are the top 10 Commandments of Options Trading Strategies

Furthermore:

  • Thou shall always take 100% daily gains or 200% all time gains.
  • Do not fall into temptation and buy during the first 30 minutes of market open. (Selling positions is still permitted)
  • Thou shall not buy calls on green days.
  • Thou shall not buy puts on red days.
  • Avoid greed and do not buy consecutive options on 1 company.
  • Give thyself at least 3 weeks time to play the option.
  • End your suffering and sell if down 50% all time on an option play.
  • Avoid gluttony and do not day trade options. (Swing trades allowed)
  • Be fruitful, multiply earnings and sell covered calls if holding any.
  • Celebrate and binge drink after big gains (or losses)
  • Off topic, but relevant – You absolutely need to be doing a 401k or IRA as well as investing in crypto: 401ks and IRAs offer fantastic tax advantages that straight investing does not. Also if you have an employer who matches you are leaving money on the table by not taking advantage of that. It’s foolish. Crypto is great and should definitely be in your portfolio but it should not be your whole portfolio.
    Sources:
    1- WallStreetBets
    2- Wikipedia

Options trading can be complex and risky business, but by following some simple rules traders can increase their chances of success while minimizing losses

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At a Shiller PE in the low 30’s, we have a very conservative 3% earnings yield (remember, Shiller averages the past 10 years of earnings) before even accounting for earnings growth. One might conclude that stocks have the slight edge in this case. The point is, we can’t look at a single valuation metric and make an informed decision. We have to consider valuations of equities against the universe of other asset types. With this post, my aim is to take a more holistic look at valuations - particularly valuation spreads - and see if we can’t make investment decisions based on our findings. A Simple Visualization A great place to start with this analysis, and the place that I started when I first began exploring this topic, is a quick visualization plotting stock yields vs bond yields. By doing so, we can start to form a picture on where we are in respect with history. PICTURE It’s important to point out what inferences we might try to gage from this chart. First, intuition tells us that high earnings yields and high bond yields (as defined by the 10-year treasury, in this case) would lead to high forward equity and bond returns, respectively. So the further right on the plot we are, the higher the future equity returns might be. Likewise, the higher (vertically) the point is, the higher the bond returns should be. With further inspection, the right most points correspond with the years surrounding the late 1910’s and early 1920’s; leading into what has been monikered the roaring 20’s. 1982 is also highlighted on this plot; which was the kickoff to one of the strongest bond and bull markets in history. These are in-line with our expectations: high returns happen when yields are high. Duh. Don’t worry, there’s more. More generally, the further up and to the right we are on the aforementioned graph, the better we can expect forward returns to be for a diversified portfolio. It’s apt to point out that 2022 was basically the inverse of 1982, having the lowest bond & stock yield combination in the modern era. In fact, the post-GFC era was essentially hugging the lower bounds of both stock and bond yields compared to the pre-GFC era. We can also start to see a shadow of how bonds and stocks might be related. Perhaps when bonds are yielding higher than stocks, stock returns suffer in relation to bonds. We see that the year 2000 (the dotcom bubble top) had equity earnings yields just over 2% (the lowest in history) while treasuries were yielding nearly 7%. We all know how that turned out. On that note, one might hypothesize that the spread between stock earnings yields and bond yields might be a predictor on how portfolios perform over time. More on that later. Historical Equity-Bond Spreads Let’s first define what the Equity-Bond Spread is: Equity-Bond Spread = (1 / CAPE) - (10 Year Treasury Yield) PICTURE Again, the implication is that the higher the equity-bond spread (simply referred to as “spread” moving forward) the more attractive equities are in comparison to bonds (i.e., equity earnings yield of 10% looks more attractive than a 3% bond yield, the spread being 10% - 3% = 7%) The figure below shows us the historical distributions of equity-bond spreads. Also noted, that today’s valuations lie in the left side of the distribution. Excess Returns The goal of this study is to see if we can find some indication on whether the spread between stock and bond yields is predictive of future returns. The easiest way to accomplish this is to compare a stock heavy portfolio to a bond heavy portfolio. One might argue between something super stock heavy like a 90/10 (stock / bond) vs 60/40. But let’s first look at complete opposites of the spectrum: 90/10 vs 10/90. We’ll define “excess return” as follows: Excess Return = (10 year annualized return of 90 / 10 portfolio) - (10 year annualized return of a 10 / 90 portfolio) As an example, in the year 1990, a 90/10 portfolio had a 10 year annualized return of 13.6% while a 10/90 portfolio had a 10 year annualized return of 5.3%, giving an excess return of 8.3%. Also, in the year 1990, the Shiller PE was 17.05 giving a equity earnings yield of 5.87%. The 10 year treasury yield was 8.21% at that time. This gives a spread of -2.34%. The point for 1990 is shown on the plot below at (-2.34% , 8.3%). The red arrow denotes where we are in 2024. PICTURE The big takeaway from this plot is that 1) stocks outperform bonds almost always and 2) there is a decent correlation between the equity-bond spread and excess returns. When stocks yield much higher than bonds, stock heavy portfolios tend to do better, in comparison, vs when the spread is low or negative. But we already knew that stocks typically perform better than bonds. The better assessment might be when to overweight stocks compared to a more traditional portfolio. Or, better yet, when to take the foot off the gas on a stock heavy portfolio. So let’s do the same exercise, this time comparing a 90/10 to a more traditional 60/40. PICTURE I’ve left the original 10/90 comparison on the plot for the visualization. As expected, the excess returns, across the board, are less pronounced because we’re comparing a stock heavy portfolio to a slightly less stock heavy portfolio. But the conclusion is clear. The spread does appear to have an impact on excess returns. In negative spread environments, we’re not paid nearly as much for the extra risk as when spreads are positive and wide. In highly positive spread environments, excess returns can be in the range of 3 - 5%. Which, we all know, can be very impactful over the long-run. Understanding Valuation Drivers For bonds, valuation is pretty easy: an investor can purchase a bond for a given yield-to-maturity (although returns on bonds aren’t quite as simple). For equities, we should examine the components of the discounted cash flow model. In the long run, a PE ratio might be estimated as follows (this is the terminal value equation): PE = (1+g) / (d-g) Above, “g” is the long run earnings growth rate, and “d” is the discount rate. In the case of price-to-earnings, “d” will be the cost of equity. I won’t cover these more in depth here because this is a very simplified look, but cost of equity is essentially a measure of risk or the required expected return for the asset. From this, we can actually glean a lot of useful information. If the security is considered very safe (ie low risk), the discount rate “d” will be low (since the required rate of return is typically lower for a safe asset). A low discount rate in the equation above will lead to a higher PE ratio. Conversely, a risky security will have a high discount rate, which will lead to a lower PE. A high long run growth rate, “g”, will increase the numerator and decrease the denominator, leading to a higher PE for a given discount rate. From these three ideas, we see that risk and growth are comingled in valuations. Something that’s low risk and has low earnings growth might actually have the same high PE valuation as something that’s high risk and high earnings growth. But the expected return will actually be higher for the high risk security. This all just to say that while PE ratios are related to forward expected returns, they don’t tell the full story. This is an important caveat to the next section. Current Valuations By Asset Classes The following data was pulled from Vanguards Website. VOO = S&P 500 BND = Bond Index VEA = Developed International VNQ = REITs VWO = Emerging Markets PICTURE This chart isn’t meant to be used to decide what asset mixture to make your portfolio. Instead, it’s meant to be used, qualitatively, as a starting point to see what asset mixes might make sense to hold. Typically, in terms of valuations, the further up and to the right (high starting yield + high earnings growth) on this graph indicates higher predicted forward returns. But there are trade offs. Namely, this doesn’t account, directly, for risk. Bonds (BND) is considered ‘risk-free’, but it doesn’t offer any potential for earnings (or coupon) growth. Developed international (VEA) looks attractive compared to the S&P 500 (VOO) on a starting yield basis, but it has offered less earnings growth, and comes with extra baggage in terms of geopolitical risk. But high risk does typically mean higher potential returns. The same goes for Emerging Markets (VWO), but to an even greater extent. Does History Have to Look Like the Past Something else to consider, especially when looking back at the first couple of sections, is “does today have to look like the past?” Do current market environment have stocks overvalued, or is it that historic valuations had stocks inordinately undervalued? Maybe stocks aren’t as risky as we first thought. Especially in the U.S., the largest companies might not carry a ton of risk at all. In that sense, maybe it was the early days of modern capitalism that were inefficient, and we’re now getting to a more balanced regime in terms of valuations, where risk-free bonds yield in the 3-5% range, and slightly riskier stocks return in the 5-7% range. In this case, the current spread environment would make sense, where starting yields are much closer, and the earnings growth potential of stocks makes up the difference in forward expected returns. But this would be all the more reason to hold a diversified portfolio. Why hold only stocks, when stocks and bonds will give a similar range of outcomes. Stocks also offer other advantages over bonds. Namely inflation protection. If inflation spikes, bonds an investor is currently holding will not only lose value due to rising interest rates, but the purchasing power of the dollars tied to those bonds will decline over time. Stocks are somewhat more resilient in that revenues and earnings (assuming steady margins) will rise with inflation. In this sense, stocks are actually less risky than bonds or cash. Inflation also affects the spread in another way. The CAPE ratio uses inflation adjusted earnings from the past. What this means is that in a high inflation environment, the CAPE ratio comes down without any correction in price. We saw this in 2022 where the CAPE fell nearly 30% while the S&P 500 only fell 18%. Due to this phenomena, in a high inflation environment, the metrics used above can correct themselves even while equity prices are climbing. Another potential issue with this study is that accounting standards have changed over time. Earnings today may not be comparable to earnings of the past. I haven’t explored these potential differences here, but it might be prudent to do so if you were to use this study for actionable advice. Conclusions Are we in a Bubble? To give Jeremy Grantham a rebuttal (although, I’m sure he’s not asking for one). No, I don’t think we’re in an outright bubble. U.S. markets might be frothy, and forward returns will probably be lower for U.S. stocks, but we’ve seen in the data above that 10 year returns have been fine given any market spread and valuation. Would I be surprised if we had another bear market? No. But I’d be just as un-surprised if we average 6-8% equity returns for the next decade. Asset Allocations To me, when presented with the data above, it doesn’t seem likely that we’ll be rewarded for holding an overweight U.S. equity portfolio. While equities should continue to outperform bonds for the next ten years, if today’s environment rhymes with history, holding an underweight stock portfolio won’t cost us much in terms of returns. But it may come with the added benefit of lower volatility and overall risk. An underweight portfolio also still has some potential to outperform. That all seems like a good trade-off. In addition, international (both developed and emerging) markets have relatively enticing valuations and return prospects. While there’s no guarantee that either will outperform U.S. equities, they may offer uncorrelated returns that also won’t drag too much on the overall portfolio. In general, given the current valuation environment, a balanced portfolio might be the best path forward for risk adjusted returns. Citations Shiller PE and Treasury Yield Data: https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe Historical Return Data: https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/histretSP.html submitted by /u/beerion [link] [comments]

  • After 7 years, Tesla’s head of Investor Relations announces his resignation after earnings call yesterday. 🤔🧐
    by /u/Investarz (wallstreetbets) on April 24, 2024 at 3:00 pm

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  • Housing defaults have now reached the highest level in a decade
    by /u/Frangs1 (wallstreetbets) on April 24, 2024 at 2:44 pm

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  • Moved my assets out of Fidelity to bet on Elon’s cuck….and he did not disappoint
    by /u/Brendawg324 (wallstreetbets) on April 24, 2024 at 2:08 pm

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  • “Nobody wants to buy a $60,000 electric Civic, but people will pay $90,000 for an electric sports car.” - Elon Musk
    by /u/KEVP_ (wallstreetbets) on April 24, 2024 at 1:47 pm

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  • "Somebody call 911..".📞
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  • A 10 percent move for Tesla on a miss with earnings ? How?
    by /u/Glittering-Initial84 (wallstreetbets) on April 24, 2024 at 10:45 am

    Look at the chart just to my eye there’s not a trade I’ll put on now if I’m not already in because I’m more of a momentum kind of trader I let the trend be my friend and I believe Tesla can trade in this wedge and if that’s the case I’ll wait to see with direct it will break. Tesla has been In a down trend for some time now so maybe the buyers will participate because of their belief of the stock price being at a price they consider cheap? My guess is as good as yours the big money that moves the market does what ever they want. We all will soon know Tesla miss on earnings and had a 10 percent jump after hours, what is next for Tesla ? Will u trade it ? If so which way? Or will you just leave it alone ? submitted by /u/Glittering-Initial84 [link] [comments]

  • Weekly Self-Promotion Thread - Wednesday, April 24, 2024
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  • Daily FI discussion thread - Wednesday, April 24, 2024
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  • GOOG: The Guy Who Killed Yahoo Search is Now Running Google's
    by /u/PristineAbrocoma9032 (wallstreetbets) on April 24, 2024 at 7:04 am

    So I was digging around and found out that Prabhakar Raghavan, the head of Google Search, used to be the head of search at Yahoo from 2005 to 2012. And let me tell you, it's not a pretty story. During his time at Yahoo, the company's search market share PLUMMETED from 30.4% to 13.4%. Yeah, you read that right - it was a FREE FALL. And it's not like he was just a bystander, he was in charge of research and development for Yahoo's search and ads products. But wait, it gets better. Under his leadership, Yahoo's search market share DECLINED FOR 9 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS. And to top it all off, Yahoo had its LARGEST LAYOFFS IN CORPORATE HISTORY at the time, cutting nearly 2,000 jobs. Is this a risk to GOOG long-term healthy growth? Have they started prioritizing short-term ad revenue over user experience, flooding search results with spam and ads to inflate earnings? Are we seeing a repeat of Yahoo's mistakes? submitted by /u/PristineAbrocoma9032 [link] [comments]

  • Tesla +13.33% post market
    by /u/son9090 (wallstreetbets) on April 24, 2024 at 6:50 am

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  • FI for single 55M
    by /u/Far-Court-5517 (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 23, 2024 at 10:58 pm

    first time poster…divorced at 47 and started fresh with net worth around 90k. Had a steady job (160k) that helped with alimony and child support payments. Currently supporting second/last kid in college costing 70k per year (3 more years to go). I have no one else to share and seek suggestions on how I am doing or needs to change investments/allocations in preparation for retiring at 62 or earlier. Here is the breakdown of my portfolio: Condo: valued 525k (bought in 2019, refied to 15 fixed @2.5%), mortgage balance 265k payoff date 10/2035 total monthly payment 3k 401k: 585k (70/30 stocks/bonds) 529: 80k HYSA: 125k Trad IRA: 62k (random stocks/etfs down 35k) Roth IRA: 97k (random stocks/etfs down 40k) Brokerage: 200k mostly in money market HSA: 20k (not contributing now bcos of health issues and can’t afford high deductible plan) Checking: 9k Auto loan: balance 34k@2.5% Current net worth 1.25m Yearly contributions: 401k: max at 30,500. Match 18k. Mega back door Roth IRA: 20k Gross pay+bonus: 240k Net take home pay: 7.5k Current expenses: 4k mortgage+auto loan payments, 2k to 3.5k other expenses Planning to retire at 62 if health permits and I can hold on to my job Social Security payments at 62 is estimated at 2.5k Estimated expenses at 62 is 80k annually submitted by /u/Far-Court-5517 [link] [comments]

  • How do you plan a withdrawal strategy for paying for children's college while early retired?
    by /u/9stl (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 23, 2024 at 3:48 pm

    Posts in here often analyze various withdrawal strategies for those with steady yearly expenses, that some of which can be cut back in tough times. But I never see how people handle a known lumpy expense in retirement like funding a child's college education. Let's assume the average cost of attendance of a state school of $25k/yr, and you have 2-3 kids that you're wanting to pay for all 4 years. I know there are opportunities for other scholarships, financial aid and other ways to bring the costs down, but let's assume your kids don't receive those and are on the hook for $200k or 300k all in total. For those who aren't going for r/chubbyfire or r/fatfire and have more financial flexibility, this figure makes up more than 10% of your NW and can make or break your retirement if not properly planned for ahead of time. Unlike retirement, paying for college is a fixed 4-year period and if the market tanks 50% like it did in 2008-09 you don't have the luxury of delaying until the market recovers, so you can't go with 100% stocks. Many Millennials in here were in or about to start college and can relate to this scenario and would've hated if their parents took too many risks with their college funds that jeopardized their future. Assuming that you never want to go back to work or alter these college plans in a GFC like scenario, what does your optimal asset allocation look like? How does it fit in with the rest of your retirement withdrawal strategy? Do you do a glide path/tent to cash/bonds a few years before, and when does that start? Edit: I'm aware of the concept of slowly moving to bonds or cash to preserve capital, but at what rate? Does anyone have any back tests or mathematical evidence for starting 1 year before vs 10 years before etc. What percent in equities etc? Obviously it probably can't be as risky as in retirement since its such a short spending timeframe submitted by /u/9stl [link] [comments]

  • Daily FI discussion thread - Tuesday, April 23, 2024
    by /u/AutoModerator (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 23, 2024 at 9:02 am

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  • Any tax efficient way to rebalance an individual brokerage acct?
    by /u/robo_capybara (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 23, 2024 at 6:34 am

    In tax sheltered accounts like 401ks and IRAs, re-balancing is straightforward since there are no tax implications until you withdraw. Is there any way to rebalance a non-tax sheltered, individual brokerage account in a tax-efficient way? I don’t think this exists, but thought I would ask the community at least. My individual investments are too skewed towards a few individual stocks for my liking, but I think if I’d want to rebalance I’d just have to sell some and eat the capital gains that year, right? What do y’all do when your holdings are uncomfortably skewed toward a few stocks aside from avoiding that situation in the first place? (I have only been doing broad index funds like VOO and VTI for a long time now and plan to only invest in these in the future, until it’s time for bonds). Thanks in advance! submitted by /u/robo_capybara [link] [comments]

  • Is FIRE About Long-term Balance or Short-Term Extremism?
    by /u/Post_Base (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 22, 2024 at 9:53 pm

    Hi, I recently discovered the FIRE idea and have done a bit of reading but am a bit confused about balance "during" achieving FIRE. I guess I'm wondering if it's another workaholic scam of some sort or can actually be attained sustainably. What I mean is, to achieve FIRE is it sufficient to just be diligent in your work and frugal with your earnings, or is it about putting in 60-hour weeks for 10 years and "sacrificing" your 20s/30s for your 40s+? I was recently talking to a gentleman I've known for a while, who is around 30, and he was telling me he hasn't been home before 6PM from work since he started in his early 20s. I don't agree with this mentality, as you can't "save up" your time and live it later, once it's gone it's gone; you never get your youthful 20s/30s back. I recently quit/resigned from medical school where this "scam" was super prevalent also; "sacrifice 10+ years of your life putting in 60+ hour weeks and when you're 35/40 you can begin to live life a little". I'm the type of person that would much rather put in a steady 35/40 hours per week and live well steadily along the way, enjoying every week, than do some sort of burnout scheme for a potential reward when I'm too old to enjoy it properly. Anyways. thoughts? Is FIRE a reasonable idea to pursue while maintaining a healthy/balanced work-life balance? Thanks. submitted by /u/Post_Base [link] [comments]

  • [M29/F29 Married Couple] Trajectory check for retiring a bit early
    by /u/Zephyr4813 (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 22, 2024 at 8:07 pm

    Hoping to get an early sanity check on retirement trajectory! My dad died of liver cancer this past year and he was 68 years old. It really makes the standard retirement age of 65-67 look insane to me when it seems like I have a good chance of dying of cancer at the same age as him. My wife and I have a mortgage on a house we want to live in until we are very old. It has an attached in-law apartment we rent out for supplemental income. Debt: Student Loan 3.375% $9,026.48 Car Loan 3.900% $24,584.97 Couch Loan 0.000% $6,092.66 Mortgage 3.125% $470,998.72 Current monthly budget: +Job Income (Pre-tax): $14,834 +Rent Income: $1,925 -Taxes and Insurance $3,343.81 -Retirement: $2,400 -Mortgage: $2,101 -Mortgage escrow: $865.59 -Car Expenses (Gas, insurance, maintenance, care): $372 -Utilities: $835 -Car payment: $553 -Couch Payment: $120 -Student Loans: $53.56 -Food and misc: $1,548 Expenses Total: $6,449 Investments and Investment Activity Monthly 401k Contributions with Employer match: $2909 (Does not include Roth IRA which we just maxed out for 2024 and might into the future) Retirement accounts sum of balances (401ks, Roth IRAs, IRAs): $152,845 Regular Retail Investment Account: $48,794.00 Goals We want to be able to stop working without losing our home or decent standard of living. Age is up in the air, but it would be great to stop working at 55. We want a couple kids. I hear this is an earth shattering financial decision but we have personal intrinsic reasons for this. I am unsure of how much money we will need in retirement as our budget doesn't really include healthcare. Is it too early to forecast monthly retirement expenses? If we paid off our mortgage and continued to collect rent today, we would only have $2500 left in expenses to cover with job income. Of course we would want to travel on some level in retirement. submitted by /u/Zephyr4813 [link] [comments]

  • You have 10 years until early retirement. You have $7k each month to invest into real estate or stocks. How would you invest your money?
    by /u/False-Ad4427 (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 22, 2024 at 7:29 pm

    You have 10 years until early retirement. You have $7k each month to invest into real estate or stocks. You cannot invest in IRA/401k/HSA and you have built a strong emergency fund. You started buying real estate 10 years ago and currently own a small real estate portfolio today. How would you invest your money? Do you: 1. Continue to buy real estate. Buy one single/multi family rental each year for the next 10 years 2. Save your money for a few years and buy a larger apartment building closer to retirement 3. Stop buying real estate and Invest in stocks and REITs 4. Stop investing and pay off all mortgages. Currently 65% LTV across my portfolio. 5. Simplify my life, sell off all rental real estate, buy more stocks and live the 4% life 6. Do some combination of things listed 7. Do something else not mentioned here. submitted by /u/False-Ad4427 [link] [comments]

  • Daily FI discussion thread - Monday, April 22, 2024
    by /u/AutoModerator (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 22, 2024 at 9:02 am

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  • 24 y/o living in Honolulu, Hawai’i
    by /u/Keolacampa (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 22, 2024 at 5:18 am

    Aloha to you all, Always active on these financial Reddit forums and thought I’d finally make my first post in one. I am a 24M born and raised in Hawai’i. If you don’t know, the cost of living here in Hawai’i is higher then most in the US. I sometimes feel I’m behind in my finances at my age and just maybe want some feedback on anything I can do better. I have no car loan , I’ve never went college (so no student loan), and credit cards which are paid off every month. I’m been recently been becoming extremely aggressive with investing my money (I wish I started earlier) . I am a valet driver here in Hawai’i (but surprisingly make enough where I’m in a “comfortable” living situation) . My current investments below. 26k in a taxable brokerage account 20k in my Roth IRA (started in 2022) 14k in 401k (I contribute 12% of paycheck, my job matches up to 6%) 10k in actual gold (I made a bad financial purchase of buying a 14k gold rope chain) 4k in crypto 4k in savings account I’ve set financial goals for myself in the amount I would like to have invested in at some point. One of main goals is that I would like to achieve 100k in my taxable brokerage account alone by my 27th birthday (hoping to get there before that). Currently with the housing market here in Hawai’i, I have no interest in buying a home here anytime soon . I pay about 1300 in rent per month. Let me know what you guys think . Mahalo (thank you) submitted by /u/Keolacampa [link] [comments]

  • Moronic Monday - April 22, 2024 - Your Weekly Questions Thread
    by /u/AutoModerator (Financial news and views) on April 22, 2024 at 5:01 am

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  • New start due to Divorce - housing decisions
    by /u/PositiveLawfulness88 (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 21, 2024 at 10:06 pm

    After reaching what felt like FI ($5.0m nw) my husband and I are divorcing. We have been living full-time in an RV travelling the country, so no home and the only debt we have is $250k loan on RV. We are both 60 and retired. I am currently a SD resident so no income tax. Once we divorce I will have about $2.4m in retirement accounts (only about $200k in Roth) and $300k in brokerage account. So from day one I will need to sell securities to fund living expenses - which is basically what we have been doing the last 3 years. My struggle is that I need to buy a home. I've been considering Palm Springs, having wanted to live there all my life. Not a cheap option nor a good time to buy with high mortgage rates. I rationalize that when we bought our condo about 30 years I think our rate was over 8%. Refinanced several times to get rid of PMI and lower rate. I find my myself drawn to properties in the $1.1m range. Does that seem crazy? Although we have had a relatively high NW, we didn't live extravagantly beyond nice vacations, so we never worried about having a budget. So I'm struggling with the thought of selling a big chunk of my investments, incurring the federal tax bill, and taking on a big mortgage. Of course, the current SD residency will help me at least save on any state tax until such time as I move. Am I crazy? Edited to note that I plan to take out a mortgage. I would put down up to $400k potentially. Edited to note I knew it was crazy but getting divorced is difficult and some days you don’t think rationally. Part of it was wanting to have the life I’d imagined as a couple. Also for those that assumed I was the wife in the situation we are both males. I have managed our finances and we did well. This was all about the note above. Appreciate the advice, especially the counsel to not rush and to rent. Trust me I’ve never been one to rush into any decision - drives the STBX crazy. submitted by /u/PositiveLawfulness88 [link] [comments]

  • 40M Trying to get organized
    by /u/PopularConcept7672 (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 21, 2024 at 3:12 pm

    I've been loosely following the FIRE community for a couple years and made some good financial decisions with the knowledge but never jumped head first. I've been extremely blessed to have a good paying job that doesn't require a ton of effort (for now). They recently did some layoff and something in me snapped and I have decided to actually lay out a plan for early retirement and am looking for some advise in organizing my contributions. My plan is retire at 53, when my youngest will graduate college. My current salary is about $86.5K and I get an annual bonus which puts me at about $100k. They have a 401k match at 8% so I max that out and it is in a Roth account that is all in an SP500 Index fund. Current balance on that is about $90k. I also have old 401ks that I converted into IRAs Traditional ($68k) and Roth ($22K). Additionally I have an inherited IRA from when my dad passed away several years ago, I have take a RMD every year but I usually take the bare minimum out of it ($66k). On top of that, I have been trying to put my bonuses straight into investments and so far is in a brokerage account which is just a growth index fund ($16k) ​ 401k (roth) $90,000 Traditional & Inherited IRA- $134,000 Roth IRA- $22,000 Non-qualified- $16,000 ​ I think I would be happy with a million but really trying to get 1.5 if I could in 13 years. What should I be prioritizing? I will continue with the 8% employer match and then I think I am going to try to max out my Roth IRA but not sure if the rest should go into the brokerage. Right now my take home pay every month is about $4,400 with estimated expenses (inflated to be safe) of around $3,500, including my kids 529 contributions. I have generally been frugal all my life. I have about $8k in debt due to replacing our AC unit last summer. I want to get a little more aggressive but don't want to screw myself in taxes. submitted by /u/PopularConcept7672 [link] [comments]

  • China Is Front and Center of Gold’s Record-Breaking Rally - BNN Bloomberg
    by /u/smallcapsteve (Financial news and views) on April 21, 2024 at 2:30 pm

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  • Daily FI discussion thread - Sunday, April 21, 2024
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  • Daily FI discussion thread - Saturday, April 20, 2024
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  • Has anyone managed to achieve a variation of the "lying flat" lifestyle (BaristaFIRE, CoastFIRE, FIRE)? If so, how did you manage to do it?
    by /u/Traditional-Emu-2541 (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 20, 2024 at 7:39 am

    Hi everyone, I (M23 from Australia) want some insights as to how people managed to be able to afford to "lie flat" financially? Lying flat is where one rejects the culture of overworking, while doing the absolute bare minimum to survive. The reason behind why I asked this question is because I see no future in being forced to work tirelessly for 30+ years and sucking up to the corporate world. I would like to ideally work for 10-15 years, while saving and investing to the point that I can afford to BaristaFIRE (where I can work low-stress jobs or pursue interests for a living). My long-term goal is to potentially own a very small townhome/villa in a low COL area in Australia (anywhere), and eventually "lie flat", obviously while still working, so I have the freedom to not be forced to continue the corporate rat race for my entire life. I honestly just don't see myself working until past the age of 60 in corporate. I mainly posted this to gather everyone's perspectives on the situation. I would really appreciate your advice and wisdom! submitted by /u/Traditional-Emu-2541 [link] [comments]

  • Utilizing a global asset allocation ETF like $AOA?
    by /u/cpa-grind (Financial Independence / Retire Early) on April 19, 2024 at 9:23 pm

    What are the pros or cons of using a single ETF like $AOA as my core holding? Seems like a easy and simple way to get global exposure. I can see a scenario where I allocate, say, 80% of my money this way and maintain the other 20% rotating between US stocks / Intl stocks / cash depending on if i want a risk on or risk off posture. I know expense ratio is higher than say $VOO or $VTI so that seems like an obvious downside. What are your thoughts? ​ submitted by /u/cpa-grind [link] [comments]

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